Ayahuasca and out of body experience with Ryan Nurse

In this episode of AyahuascaPodcast.com host Sam Believ of LaWayra Ayahuasca retreat interviews Ryan Nurse TBI (traumatic brain injury) surviver, public speaker and a coach. 

Ryan talks about his out of body experience and similarities with his Ayahuasca experience at LaWayra

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Transcript

Sam Believ: You’re listening to ayahuasca podcast.com.

Hi guys, and welcome to ayahuasca podcast.com. As always, with you, the host and believe founder of Lara Ayahuasca Retreat. We are reporting today from. The Laira, as you can see. And our guest today is Ryan. Nurse Ryan is from UK and he is a public speaker and a social media persona and a coach, I believe.

Yes, that’s correct. Ryan, tell us a little bit about yourself and what brought you. To Ayahuasca?

Ryan Nurse: Yeah, sure. So I’m a traumatic brain injury survivor, and thriver was also suffered from and overcome depression after a relationship breakup. So back in 2011, I was attacked on the way home from a nightclub.

Which resulted in me being rushed to hospital the next day where I suffered from a fractured skull and a blood clot due to a bleed on the brain. I was in a coma in the intensive care unit and after three days, specialists wanted to pull the plug on my life support machine. ’cause I had completely zero brain activity.

I was completely brain dead. And after coming out of say that trauma, that traumatic event. I boxed up and buried all of those thoughts, feelings, emotions, and that whole experience. And I went into a fast-paced relationship for many years, for six and a half years. And when that relationship come to an end, obviously went through depression as it was ending.

But once I come up and out of that depression. Rather than looking for all of my answers outside and trying to find, say, happiness externally, I started to look inside and learn a bit more about myself and to say, go on this journey of self discovery. And I started to explore, say that trauma and that out of body experience that I actually went through whilst in the coma.

Because in the out of body experience, it made me question. The whole universe, the whole reality that we, we view for our own unique set of eyes. And yeah, it just made me really question why we are here on earth. And the more research that I’ve done into myself and this out of body experience, I realized there’s so many similarities with other people that have also say, been through these out of body experiences and.

I realize that a way of connecting with your true self and to find more about these certain journeys that people experience, say whilst in comas whilst say, coming to the end of their life, like near death experiences, for instance, that certain plant-based medicines, especially like Aya, Wasco, is a way of understanding more about these experiences and learning more about yourself.

So for me, I went on this one-way trip back in 2022 April to. Latin America to start in Mexico. And as I made my way down through every country in Latin America, I finally got to Columbia. And Columbia for me, felt like home. I really connected to this country the most. And I met a guy, an English guy, actually in Cali, in Columbia, and he recommended Lara to me.

And he told me about his amazing experience here. And I’d always wanted to do Ayahuasca throughout the whole trip down from Mexico. I managed to do some mushrooms and I felt so at peace, but I never got the opportunity to explore, say, AYA Oscar, and this English guy recommended me here, LoRa, and I checked it all out.

I’d done all the research, and it just seemed so, so good, and it seemed perfect for me. Literally. And for some odd reason I ended up booking a flight in November back home to England for Christmas to see my family, et cetera, and to go on this business seminar that I’d already booked a long time ago.

I booked this flight up and I flew back to England, and literally as soon as I was on that plane, as soon as we got up into the air, I realized that I left my soul in Columbia and that I made the wrong decision and I felt that I had unfinished business here in Columbia. So I got back to England and straight away I was looking at flights back.

And then I reached out to Sam here and I started to explore my options regarding coming back to do an Aya Oscar retreat and. Before you know it, I’d booked myself up and booked my spot here in Laira. I flew back out to Columbia to Cali, made my way up to Mein. In February this year, 2023, I’d done a one week ayahuasca retreat here, which was incredible.

Yeah. Wow. It just, again, made me really look deep within myself, but. To realize the possibilities and the amount of things that we as humans can’t actually see with our own eyes. There’s so much going on in our brain in this universe like that we are living in, there’s so much stuff on say, energetic field that we can’t actually view with our own eyes.

And in say the last ceremony in February, the three main takeaways that I got from that experience was that nothing lasts forever. Everything changes and that the right people will always come into your life at the right time. So I went away from this say ceremony, feeling refreshed, feeling excited, feeling happy, feeling just a different me, like I started to appreciate even like the smallest things even more.

I, I felt real connected more to, i’d say Patch your mama to the earth. And I found myself just looking at trees and nature and just smiling just for the sake of it. And yeah, there was always that connection. I’d always say enjoyed nature. But after say, coming out of this retreat earlier this year, I really connected more with nature and then I made my whole way down through every country down in round two, Brazil.

Where I was in Rio, for instance, it was at the last stop in Brazil. And something was just telling me, my, my intuition was saying, you need to go back and do another retreat, because there’s still more to learn. There’s still more to experience. So something was telling me to come back, which I found a flight to Lima, Peru, and then I went to Iquitos.

I spent a week in the jungle, just me and a guide really connected with nature again. And then I made my way down the Amazon River on a boat. Got to Leticia, took a flight to Columbia to. Cali, sorry. And then, yeah, now that I was back in Columbia, it was like, now’s my time to get back to and back to Laro, which obviously I spoke to Sam again.

Booked up another week, and now I’m here. I’ve done two night ceremonies. I’ve got another night ceremony tonight and one more day ceremony. So yeah, I really looked forward to seeing what these next few days bring.

Sam Believ: Ryan, you mentioned out of body experiences, near death experiences, and, those are mystical experiences because people that come back from them they report, understanding more than we normally would. And some people also call ayahuasca experience a mystical experience. So were you able to reconnect to that state or draw any similarities in between your ayahuasca states and what you experience at that?

Near death auto body experience.

Ryan Nurse: Yeah, no, that’s a great question. So in say the out of body experience and in my say Aya Oscar experience, especially in February the first day ceremony actually I went for a crazy experience where things were just coming at me. It literally blasted me into another universe, another dimension things were happening, colors, shapes.

Things just were so crazy and it was happening so quick. Like one point I had this Ayahuasca baby and just crazy things were happening. But it told me just to calm down and trust the process. And that’s what I said everything changes because one time I was like, I’m gonna die and I was dead and like all these things happening, but I just trusted the journey and everything worked out.

But when I was actually in hospital back in 2011. In that out of body experience, it was a completely different experience, to be fair. And it was me viewing myself laying there in that hospital bed and I was being, say, pushed through different dimensions and there was so many different transitions between these eyes that I was viewing this experience through and my actual physical body as well that I was viewing.

There was so many transitions that kept happening but. Now that I’ve done all the research on what happened, and now that I remember it as well, I remember it so vividly, it was the most. Peaceful, perfect experience. Like I remember seeing the doctors working on my, say, damaged head and there was no say blood or there was no pain.

It was just peace and pleasure and it was the most beautiful thing I’ve ever seen. Seeing me being worked on by these doctors. And towards say, the end of that whole experience that I went through, the doctors dissipated and went behind where I couldn’t see. And then these eyes that I was viewing through, which I honestly believe were say the eyes of my creator, they got transitioned or sucked back into my own head.

And as I opened my eyes in this outer body experience, I remember. Laying in that hospital bed. And I slowly looked up and I see this giant curtain in front of me. And now I’m thinking like, what happens? What happens next? And in this experience, there was no sense of time or space or everything.

Everything just lasted forever. Everything was just limitless. And when these curtains in front of me opened up this super white bright like this, it was like. It was a crazy light. It was like supernatural bright white light just shone through with such intensity that it made me close my eyes, and as I closed my eyes, I just felt it so hot, and then it was just dimming down.

And then when it felt safe to open my eyes again, it was like the main part of the experience in that outer body experience. And. I remember I looked out as far as the eye could see, and again, it wasn’t in a room or a place because there was no walls, there was no floor, no ceiling. It was just limitless space.

And as far as the eye could see, I just saw faces of people, every single person that I’d ever seen in my whole life. And it was in an order of importance. Like it could have been someone that I bumped into in the street when I was a kid, and it just got. More important the closer it got, like family, friends, school friends, family members, for instance.

And then right at the end of my bed with the faces of my immediate family, like mom, dad, brother, sisters, for instance. And the most common thing, the these faces were the every single face. It was just tears running from each face and they were all silently sobbing. And I remember I just felt an instant feeling of something that I’ve done wrong.

And I just kept questioning myself in my own head. What have I done wrong? What have I done wrong? And then I started to try and grab the attention of these faces, and I started to wave. I started to try and shout, but no words were coming out and. I tried for what seemed forever and I was just trying to wave and shout and nothing was happening, and it was like I didn’t even exist.

These faces were just staring straight through me. And I remember I, I closed my eyes and I cried and I laid back, and as soon as my head hit that pillow, it was like the most powerful suction vacuum on my head. And it just sucked this whole bright white experience, all the faces out of the top of my head, and it just went completely black and dark and.

In this experience, my body was really cold, and as soon as it went black, my body started to warm up, and then in the distance I hear this beep. Beep, and it got louder and faster. And in my mind, I was just thinking, Ryan, this is your alarm clock. Like you need to wake up for work. I believed it was a Saturday morning and that I had work and that I needed to wake up.

So in my mind I’m thinking it’s my alarm clock and it was getting louder, faster, louder, faster. And I’m saying, Ryan, wake up. Wake up. You’re gonna be late for work. And thought, oh my God, my boss is gonna be so angry. And then one point, bam, I opened my eyes and. This is when I’m back in the real world and I look around and I’m in this dark room with no windows and just machines and beds and tables and just things that I just sat around everywhere and I’m like, am I dead?

Is this real? Like, where am I? And as I started to look around, slowly I see had all these pins penetrating my skin, these pads on my chest, had the tube down my throat. And I’m thinking, is this real? Am I in the movie? What is this? This is a dream, for instance, and this beeping was so intense, so loud at my left, left side here.

And as I slowly looked, I realized that beeping wasn’t my alarm clock at all. It was the life support machine that was keeping me alive. And in that moment, every single thought from that night prior to being attacked, it come all flooding back. And it was like. A massive download, like when you try and do too many things on your computer at once.

It was like everything got downloaded into my mind. It was the biggest headache that I’ve ever had, and I just closed my eyes and I cried, and then I cried myself to sleep, obviously. And then when I woke up in the morning, I just remember waking up to my brother, my sister, my, my mom and dad just stood over my bed and they were actually there now, and they were just looking at me saying.

I wonder if he knows who we are, like he’s alive and all this stuff. And I was just thinking, of course, I know who you are, but I couldn’t talk, I couldn’t do anything. So that was the out of body experience. But yeah the experience that I had with the ayahuasca was totally different, but it was also so very interested in, and it just made me, again, just question life and realize that things happen the way that they should do, and that you shouldn’t put too much pressure on.

I’m trying to figure things out. ’cause things happen in our lives and in the moment we really don’t understand why they’re happening or what’s the reason for how things are happening the way that they’re happening in that moment. But when you can come away from those experience and you step outside of the jar and look back because you can’t read the label from inside the jar, when you come from a different point of view or a different perspective, that you can start to understand these things that happen in your life and you can realize from say, a more.

Educated set of eyes or a different point of view that these things happen the exact way that they should, even though that they were potentially painful in the moment or almost soul destroying or life changing at the time. You may think they are the worst things that happened to you, but looking back, for me, the worst things that ever happened to me turn out to be the very best things.

And sometimes your most profound periods of pain can also turn out to be your greatest gifts of growth.

Sam Believ: Yeah, this is very true. I definitely can recall a few moments like this in my own life where you’re, you think it’s the worst thing that ever happened, but it turns out to be the best.

So Ryan came back here in February. That would be, what, about eight months ago? Yeah,

Ryan Nurse: roughly. Yeah. And,

Sam Believ: How did you feel after your first retreat and what made you come back?

Ryan Nurse: Yeah, after my first retreat I just had a, obviously before I even come to the first retreat, I just had a deep calling yeah, I heard about Iowa.

I’ve done the research on it before, but traveling down through Mexico and say, getting really into the Latin culture and say just connecting with, say the nature, for instance, on the whole trip down because. To begin with. Before I went home for Christmas, it was like seven months I spent coming down through Mexico and Central America.

I just felt a connection, like someone was calling me, like the Oscar was calling me. Like I wasn’t searching for it. It was searching for me. It was like almost magnetizing me to it. And then meeting that guy was like perfect timing sort of thing. Like he was. He was the person that I needed in my life at that time to introduce me to this.

Because, what was his name? His name was James, I believe, I dunno his second name. Shout out to James. James, yeah. And I believe he, he’s like a doctor. A really cool guy actually. Yeah. Ah, so wasn’t

Sam Believ: he Irish?

Ryan Nurse: Yes. I be ah. Oh, I dunno, I can’t remember. But yeah I believe it was James. He might have been Irish, I can’t remember.

But he was a really cool guy and he’s done some cool stuff actually. So real, just great connection with him. And yeah, he just mentioned this to me and I was just like, this is perfect perfect timing. So for me, that guy just come into my life at the right time to introduce me to this amazing place where I’m at now.

Yeah. Ayahuasca called me. I come here, I’d done the experience for the week. It was crazy. The day ceremony was crazy. The first few nights. It was like just welcoming me into the experience. And yeah, I got some cool visions and stuff, but then that day ceremony was just bam, and it just, it was just really profound.

The next day, when it was the second day ceremony, I remember. I didn’t really want to do the medicine as much. I didn’t want a trip. I didn’t wanna go on a crazy experience. I just wanted to enjoy the day and just absorb the energy from the music. ’cause for me, I really connected with the music and then, yeah, after going away I left.

I. And yeah, like I say, I just really felt connected to nature and to say people as well. Like I really had a huge sense of gratitude, like for my family, for my friends, for just everyone in general. Because I honestly believe that we learn something from every single person that comes into our lives.

And the people that do come into our lives, whether they bring something that we want or they say something or they do something that we don’t want, whatever happens. This message, whatever it comes to us, is teaching us a lesson and it’s teaching us something about ourselves. So I’ve become more aware and more conscious of the language and the actions that people say are bringing towards me, for instance.

So yeah, over the next many months that say went by, coming down through the rest of south America, I really just connected with the people that I met with. And then like I say, once I got round to Brazil, it was like something was saying, you need to go back, and I always listen to my intuition because my intuition for me has never, ever guided me in the wrong direction.

So I thought, look, I need to go my gut and my intuition is telling me. So yeah, come back.

Sam Believ: Okay. And you’re back now. So obviously your story is very different from I would say an average person in our group. Like what you seem to be seeking with ayahuasca is less of a healing and more of a.

Spiritual exploration and then revelation. Am I being correct?

Ryan Nurse: Yeah, more spiritual, but for me as well, it’s like I’m in this journey of say self discovery, but also on a journey, how I can learn more about myself to then make a bigger impact on the world. Because through that out of body experience, after trying to understand it for all these years since say 2011.

Something I believe sent me back because even gonna see that doctor they wrote me off. They said no way is he gonna wake up zero brain activity, like he’s never coming back. Pull the plug. And then at the end of that week it was like, oh, if he ever does come back, he’ll never walk or talk again.

He’d be in a vegetative state for the rest of his life, like his life won’t be worth living. And I literally walked out of that hospital under four weeks like nothing had happened. And when I went back to see that doctor, he said you are a walking miracle. This never happens. ’cause the blood clot was so big and it pushed my brain over and down my spine.

And they said the damage, there’s no going back from that type of damage. Like he’s gonna be permanently brain brain damage for the rest of his life. But then for me. I come out of that. So I believe like that whole experience, the out body experience, I was viewing it through, I believe the eyes of my creator and something sent me back.

And when I’d done the research, this is how I understand it, I believe that all of those faces that I’ve, I viewed that were crying, they were crying because I hadn’t yet complete the job that I was first sent here to do in the first place, which is to help say humanity, which is to help people on a global scale.

Understand who they truly are, what they are here to do with their lives, and to guide them through the process of say, discovering their true selves and becoming the very best versions of themselves to go on to live a true, authentic life, that gives them a true sense of joy, purpose, meaning, and fulfillment.

So that’s what I truly believe. My job here is on Earth. So now the ayahuasca for me is a tool. To help understand more about myself and how I can serve on a much greater scale on Earth. Yeah.

Sam Believ: For those people you’re working with as a coach and and an inspirational speaker, would you recommend them to ayahuasca in their search for their true selves?

Ryan Nurse: Like it’s a difficult one. You like, for me, from my experience, I could say to anyone like, yeah, I had the best time. You should do it too, but. No, I’m a big believer, and we were speaking about it, a few of us yesterday and even this morning, I believe Ayahuasca calls you to her.

If you are gonna go out there looking for certain things in your life, sometimes you try and rush the process, and I found this actually last night with my Aya Oscar night experience last night, and it was telling me like not to rush the process in life. Like things will come to you when they’re meant to come to you.

Don’t try and speed up the process because everything happens at the right time. Nothing happens too soon or too late, and it should actually happen. Everything that happens at the perfect timing, like. Yeah, life is the perfect timing. Whether things happen and you don’t want them to happen, it was meant to happen at that time.

’cause you was meant to learn something from that, whether it is a good situation or a bad situation. So anyone potentially say, asking me for my advice or my opinion or my suggestion, should I do I, Oscar, I’ll just put it back to you. What do you feel you should do and do you feel in this moment? You are ready to go on this journey because it is a journey, and it’s not just for fun.

It’s not oh, you just go from where you currently are in your job, your life, or whatever. Go to this retreat here, for instance, and you just do it and go back to normal life. No, you need to prepare yourself, whether it’s your diet your body your energy, your mindset. You need to go through a process of preparing yourself, preparing for what you’re about to explore and to discover potentially about yourself, and then to be comfortable with.

Potentially the worst case scenario because Ayahuasca literally holds a mirror up to yourself, reflect back to you the potential issues or things that need working on within yourself, and then it’s not gonna do the work for you. It’s gonna show you what you potentially need to do, but then it’s a. It is down to you to want to go away then and say what I’ve learned from this experience, I’m gonna start to implement to then overcome these potential hurdles, barriers, issues in my life, to then become the best version of myself, and then to let go of anything that’s holding me back from.

Potentially achieving my goals and dreams and desires in the future. So if anyone asked me should I do it, I could, yeah, I could say, yeah, do it. And you could go and do it and have a work, a real bad experience. Or on the other hand, you could do it and have an amazing experience. So again, from my own experience, I’d always say, listen to your intuition.

If there’s something deep down inside that you can’t budge that is constantly saying, I’m ready for it, go ahead and do it. And I believe if it’s calling you and. It’s not just one or twice. It’s like on a constant basis it’s almost calling you to it. Yeah. I think it’s your time to explore.

Don’t go out there just to do it because you heard someone do it. You’ve read an article, you’ve seen a TikTok for instance, or your best friend’s gone and done it and come back and they feel like a new person. Don’t go on someone else’s experience or opinion. Yeah. Obviously do research, ask other people, for instance, before you do it.

But I believe that it needs to. You need to connect with it through your own, say your own true self inside.

Sam Believ: Yeah. Chances are, if you’re listening to this podcast or watching to this podcast, you already are in that stage of preparation and collecting some good information that I’m sure you’ll find here on how to prepare and how to establish that connection with the medicine before you ever drank it.

So Ryan you mentioned that obviously it’s your day three here. Now we’ve done two more ceremonies of this retreat. Can you share something about your own process in this two days or maybe something you observed in the group or anything that you say would would interest our listeners?

Ryan Nurse: Yeah, of course. For me, coming back, I had a, literally, my experience coming back this time was flipped to last time, so in February for instance, I had these worries, these fears, and a little bit anxious. To be fair, I’m not gonna say I wasn’t, because I believe everyone coming into an Iowa experience or ceremony for the first time, they do have a bit of anxiety because it’s the unknown, but.

I can say to anyone like, the magic is in the unknown. Like never fear the unknown or the uncertainty because this is a blank space of opportunity for you to actually discover what it is that you truly want. So yeah, like me and many that we come, last time in February we was a bit anxious. The best thing about being here is like, Sam, what you do with the word circle.

I, I believe. Yeah, there’s so much power within people and within your network and with your surroundings. And having these word circles before you even begin is the most powerful and important part to get any sort of thoughts, feelings, emotions out of you to share with other people because. Nine out of 10 times, the person sat next to you is feeling almost identical feelings or worries or fears.

So it’s like you go into this and you, it is like you are not the only person that is feeling say, worried about this. Or What if this happens? What if that? So you start sharing your thoughts and feelings and then immediately you go from hearing, you just go and you feel so much at peace and so much calm and ready for the experience ahead.

So that’s a great first step is the. There, there were circles. And then, yeah, so when I first went in February, it was like, I took the cup, the very first cup, and it was sweet. It was a nice taste. And then I sat there for a while and there was like some weird few things happening and I gradually got into it.

And same with the second day. And then that third day ceremony was the one that blasted me off. And I saw these crazy, amazing experiences. But then this time it was flip. I come here. Because I already knew the drill sort of thing. I had no, no worries, no fear. It was all just excitement, just all joy, love, excitement, peace and happiness, and I was just really looking forward to see what the medicine would do once we say, Hey, build that connection again. Because I’ve already seen, like we, we’ve already met each other before, so it’s just I can’t wait to welcome her back into my body and just build that connection again and see what.

Sort of relationship we can build together. So I went into the first night ceremony a couple of nights ago, and yeah, I go up and instead of being sweet this time, I took that first full cup and wow, it is a real harsh taste. But again, I just said, look, I. We know the drill. We’re here again welcome back to my body.

And yeah, straight away we were building that connection. I just felt her going through my body and she was like just teasing me and tickling me and just twitching my thing, my, my fingers and my toes and stuff. And yeah, it was just like, yeah, do you wanna go on a journey? I was like, yeah, come on, let’s go on a journey.

And yeah, straight away, I’m not joking. After 10 minutes. Wow. I just started seeing visuals. I started to see eyeballs and shapes and colors and mouth and smiles and teeth and just like the things that I saw before. And yeah, it was just instantly, I’m just in this place and I’m just listening to the music and I’m taking it all in and yeah, I just felt really calm and I just felt, I felt at home sort of thing again, and it was really nice experience and. Yeah. And then I went up and I I took the second cup. And the second cup was really sweet actually, and it was a good taste. And again, I just went back and I just chilled out. And my intention for that one was to help me with some sort of trapped trauma that I believe I have in my leg.

I. Here, after going through that many months of mental misery whilst down and depressed after that relationship breakup back in 2019, I believe I got trapped trauma in my leg. And the ayahuasca, like mother, AYA, Oscar, was just telling me like, put both legs out straight. Because if you do want this trauma to get out of you, you’re gonna need to have a clear pathway for it to be released.

So I just sat there like a pencil and I could just feel the aya just going up and surging my body and scanning my complete body. Yeah, like what am I talking about now? So all the things that I’m experiencing that first day, that first night, sorry. I believe like the Aya Oscar,

she wants the best for you and she is here to help you in the best way that she can. And she’s not gonna do the work for you like. In life, like your dreams don’t work unless you do. You need to be the one to put the work in to achieve anything in life. You can’t just go and buy like your dream life off a shelf, for instance.

Yeah, you can get help, you can get guidance from coaches, mentors, books seminars content online, for instance. All the information out is out there, like there’s no lack of resources out there in life, but there’s always a lack of resourcefulness. So you as the individual, whether you come here.

To say an Aya Oscar retreat to learn more about yourself to discover, say, potential blockage blockages, or things that are potentially not going right in your life. You come here and you be open-minded. Don’t expect it to be like this, and drop all expectations, because I feel like that’s when you’re gonna have a sort of potentially negative experiences experience or not.

Have a fully fulfilled experience it, or you are gonna be a little bit unhappy because you might come here yeah, I’m gonna take ayahuasca and I’m gonna leave here and then all of my dreams come true. No, that’s not the case. But if you listen to the Ayahuasca you listen to what’s happening to your body, the thoughts, the feelings, the emotions that you are going through.

They’re gonna be the teachings the vital, priceless life lessons that you’re gonna learn from this experience. And it’s down to you to take those experiences, take the journal, which the amazing journal here, which you need to write every single day, at least once a day. Writing a journal and then constantly go back on that.

Don’t just take your journal away with your writings, your learnings in. Don’t just go away and then just shove it in your bag or on your shelf at home and never listen to it or read it again. Take that and constantly review it because for me, I found over the next 6, 7, 8 months, whatever it’s been since the first one, every time that I review that journal that I wrote down in February.

From my whole experience, I either learned something new about my experience or I remember something else that I completely forgot whilst going through that experience in the moment. So life is a huge lesson and you need to be a lifelong learner and just extract all the lessons from every single experience and use the lessons whether they were peaceful, whether they were pleasure, wherever they were, pain every single experience you go through in life extract the lessons.

And then use them to help you get what you want and become the very best version of yourself.

Sam Believ: Thank you, Ryan. I say we wrap up on those amazing words of encouragement. Thank you. And to see you good at your work, you know how to motivate people. So guys, listen up to Ryan and learn how to, move your life from that sort of.

Stale that point. Ryan, for those who might wanna learn more about you and your work, where can they find you?

Ryan Nurse: Yeah, thank you. And thanks everybody for listening. People who will listen back to this. If you wanna find more out about me the best way to connect with me is on all social medias.

Mainly Instagram. Social media handle is at Ryan, nurse that is at Ryan Nurse. I’m on all social medias mainly. Instagram is the best place to connect. Send me a DM if you wanted to learn more about me. I’m actually releasing a book at the moment as well, so really excited for that to come out.

So if you wanna know further, reach out to me and we can connect further. Okay, Ryan, thank you a lot for coming. Thank you so much my friend. I appreciate you guys. You’ve

Sam Believ: been listening to ayahuasca podcast.com. Thank you for listening, and I’ll see you in the other episode.